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Contribution from Helen Johnstone 07 January 2014, 13:08top / bottom of page

The Great British Garden Revival tonight (7th Jan) at 7pm will feature rock gardens.

Contribution from Tim Ingram 07 January 2014, 15:21top / bottom of page

Thanks Helen - will definitely watch this. Do you think comments on here and the SRGC Forum may have had some influence on the 'Great British Garden Revival'? After all there are still plenty of gardens around the British Isles and not a few gardeners.

Contribution from Helen Johnstone 07 January 2014, 17:03top / bottom of page

Hi Tim

No I don't think so.  I think if anything has had an influence it is the large gardening contingent on twitter who are very vocal.  There has been a particular criticism of gardeners world and I know the person who was behind it was asked to meet with producers but this was definitely after the commissioning of the garden revival programme which follows the same format as the successful food revival programme. 

I really believe that if people want to influence the media twitter is the place - I talk to nurserymen, gardeners, designers, writers, presenters on a daily basis. It is the way forward







Contribution from Tim Ingram 07 January 2014, 20:53top / bottom of page

I have given my impression of this programme on the SRGC Forum. A start but still somewhere to go. Helen you may be right about 'twitter' and the media, but there is still quite a gap between twittering and the skills exhibited by alpine gardeners over the past 80 years or so.

Contribution from Helen Johnstone 07 January 2014, 20:58top / bottom of page

Hi Tim

I'm not sure what you mean by a gap between twittering and skills of alpine gardeners over 80 years but the point I am making is that if you want to encourage new people to become interested in alpines then you need to use the social media they use and I can assure you that there are many skilled and accomplished gardeners! nurserymen including alpinists on twitter sharing their knowledge. 

Contribution from Tim Ingram 07 January 2014, 22:10top / bottom of page

What I mean by that is not any reflection on gardeners, nurserymen or plant lovers now but just the importance of, I suppose you could say, the historical record in learning about plants. For me this is the result of a scientific education and the way in which this develops on the basis of previous knowledge. It may not be the way many people view gardening and plants but it is mine.

Contribution from Ian Crompton 08 January 2014, 09:07top / bottom of page

I know I didn't Get home till 3am this morning and watched the program on catch up TV. But did i miss the section on Rock Gardens, all I saw was boarders and Kitchen gardens.

Contribution from Ian Crompton 08 January 2014, 09:42top / bottom of page

Found it I must have watched the wrong episode when looking for it in my sleep deprived TV watching.

Contribution from Martin Rogerson 08 January 2014, 10:45top / bottom of page

Ian, apparently the BBC made a little mistake in poading to Iplayer, I understand the correct episode is now there

Contribution from Tim Ingram 14 January 2014, 11:57top / bottom of page

Helen - I am beginning to see what you mean about twitter; it does connect many interesting people and allows for more individual expression. There is obviously quite a generational divide because those who twitter are very noticeable by their absence on the AGS website and yet it must be an important aspect in stimulating greater interest in the Society (as Robert Amos has said earlier on). I'm not sure where this leaves the likes of me because I still stand by what I said earlier and like to view plants in more detail. Maybe someone else might respond? Or maybe what I say doesn't add much to any debate?

Contribution from Helen Johnstone 14 January 2014, 12:20top / bottom of page

Hi Tim

I completely understand what you mean by more detail but I think you need to see twitter more as stimulating interest and discussion rather than providing all the information. 

As a result of some episodes of Great british revival I have had fascinating conversations with likeminded people about ferns and hardy exotics.  Generally people share links to more detailed information.

I think when you are talking about new members the most important thing is to stimulate the interest first rather than put people off with lots of information.  People can often feel threatened and put off by thinking that they dont have enough knowledge to join a specialist group/society whereas if you point them in the right direction, selling the seed scheme, books, forums they will then find their own way in their own time.


Contribution from Helen Johnstone 14 January 2014, 12:48top / bottom of page

Oh and to quantify my statement about twitter being good for recruiting new members both myself and a twitter friend joined the AGS due to talk on twitter about its seed scheme



Contribution from Tim Ingram 14 January 2014, 13:42top / bottom of page

I'm certainly in agreement with you on this Helen but I don't see the AGS website developing unless more members get involved in discussing things here too. Perhaps the SRGC provides this option and the AGS site is more a repository of detail - I'm not sure that is how it should be, but that is my particular opinion.

Contribution from Tim Ingram 19 January 2014, 11:59top / bottom of page

When the perennial discussion about plants and television was aired on the SRGC Forum in a discussion about specialist garden societies, Helen mentioned the programme 'Wild China', which is just being repeated on BBC4. Although this hasn't specifically looked at native plants so far, it is beautifully presented and put together; the epitome of the programme makers art, and a good example of how programmes more specifically devoted to plants and their ecology could inform viewers in the future, whether close to home or far away.

Contribution from Tim Ingram 08 March 2014, 08:29top / bottom of page
Gardener's World this Friday

Copied from the SRGC Forum:

The last Gardener's World programme which featured Brian Mathew with Carol Klein at Myddelton House has been commented on elsewhere on the Forum. I think in this case we are a little unfair on the programme because it seemed to me there was a lot of value put across on it. The simple description of a garden being flooded and recovering even after ten days inundation must be reassuring for many gardeners who have suffered through the recent floods. And who hasn't eventually got round to grubbing out an old hedge and finding a whole new area to plant up. I don't think there is any doubt either that Rachel de Thame has a passion and love of roses little different to that that many here have for snowdrops. In a subtle way I think the programme is moving in the direction many of us would like to see more of - the main problem being that a popular gardening programme like this has to appeal to many tastes, in not too different a way than the Forum does. What I would like to see is more occasional programmes that look at plants in wider contexts, particularly in the Natural World itself, and the discovery and exploration that has and does go on behind our gardening. We can talk about the great plant hunters and gardeners of the past, but in different ways there are similar people today too but many are unheralded and their knowledge about plants, like Brian Mathew's, take more time and thought to really appreciate and understand, and making programmes that might capture this are more in the nature of film making and documentary. Alpine plants and the essentially unspoiled beauty of their environments are what have always appealed to me more than anything else - gardening with them just enables you to appreciate this right outside your door but it doesn't stop you dreaming of travelling in the mountains, or for a few lucky people actually doing this.
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