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Contribution from Eric Marsh 12 December 2013, 11:56top / bottom of page

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Why has there been no discussion at any level, as far as I can see of this invidious proposal.?

It would mean the end of the Seed Exchange and probably the Members plant stall at shows amongst many other things.

Contribution from Helen Johnstone 12 December 2013, 12:00top / bottom of page

Hi Eric

My understanding from a discussion at HPS is that such plant sales and seed exchanges are outside the legislation.

Contribution from Margaret Young 12 December 2013, 18:41top / bottom of page

It is hoped that it the case  meantime that "we" shall be exempt, Helen - but there is no guarantee that will remain so and there is considerable threat to the smaller (especially specialist) nurseries- many of whom are not only members of this sort of society, but who are vital to the supply of plants to us all.

The Hardy Plant Society  and the RHS has been encouraging individuals and groups to get involved in contacting MEPs to ensure that this legislation does not damage the ornamental plant industry and the future of our plant societies.


This link is to an article  from 10th December  in Horticulture Weekly  by Malcom Appleby, titled Concessions omitted from EC plant report



Contribution from Margaret Young 12 December 2013, 19:27top / bottom of page
mixing up HPS and Plant Heritage.....

Sorry, I'm mixing up the HPS and the  Plant Heritage ( NCCPG ) - so many acronyms - so little time, eh!?!


The HPS  seem to be taking a very relaxed view .

Contribution from Helen Johnstone 13 December 2013, 09:46top / bottom of page

Hi Margaret

I am surprised too by HPS's view.  The subject was raised at our group meeting (a group attended by many nurserymen) by one of the members who had done a lot of research and was very vocal about how we should all be writing to our MEP.  There are sample letter on the plant heritage site and also realseeds.  However, a member of the national committee responded as I have quoted above which I thought was rather strange given the concerns I had read at plantheritage and from various nurserymen/plantsmen on twitter.


Contribution from Tim Ingram 13 December 2013, 11:22top / bottom of page

I think the problem is that people really don't like rocking the boat, and unless you are directly effected by this proposed legislation (ie: as an individual) there is the tendency to try and ignore it. It seems like the age-old conflict between 'big' government and little government. Although it seems as though the interests of specialist nurseries and societies have been considered in passing, the worry is that the concerns of big government and business will over-ride smaller scale freedoms, especially intellectual freedom, and society will become the poorer for it.

Contribution from Margaret Young 13 December 2013, 16:02top / bottom of page

Helen - reading the comments  on the HPS site I can imagine your surprise.


Contribution from Helen Johnstone 31 January 2014, 18:33top / bottom of page

It appears there has been some positive progress

Contribution from Tim Ingram 31 January 2014, 19:25top / bottom of page

That looks to be an excellent summary of the situation Helen and hopefully a victory for a more sensible vision. A number of farmers I know look to have come under enormous pressure from 'economics', in a way that makes no sense at all.

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