Androsace: Outside Androsace
Started by: Rick Lambert
A list of species and hybrids for trying outside
Go to latest contribution by Rick Lambert, 23 July 2012, 23:06. Go to bottom of this page.Tim Ingram set me thinking and the result is a list of species that can be tried outside in very good drainage.
Easy
albana
alpina
carnea
ciliata
cylindrica
geranifolia
hausmannii
himalaica
hirtella
integra
jacquemontii
laevigata (D)
laggeri
lanuginosa
mathilde
mucronifolia
mucronifoliaXsempervivoides
sarmentosa
sempervivoides
studiosorum
some protection
bulleyana
globifera
limprichtii
Xmarpensis
montana (D)
robusta
spinulifera
tangulashanensis
yargongensis
zambalensis
A challenge
helvetica
ochotensis
pyrenaica
vandellii
laevigata v. ciliolate (D)
rigida
nivalis (D)
idahoensis (D)
A challenge
helvetica
ochotensis
pyrenaica
vandellii
laevigata v. ciliolate (D)
rigida
nivalis (D)
idahoensis (D)
Very useful Rick, many thanks.
Rick - that looks a very exciting list! I aim to extend my sand bed, and possibly experiment with different materials and tufa, so I will be strongly tempted to try some of these species. Any that do succeed well then offer the opportunity of propagation and hopefully encouraging more gardeners to try them. Many thanks; will aim, to learn more about those I don't know.
Rick, just so we are clear. When you say outside do you mean outside outside' or outside with Winter overhead protection?
Hi Martin,
I was referring to 'Outside subsp. outside', but then realised I had included A. zambalense which does need cover. Sorry about that.
David Mowle suggests trying most Androsace outside as he did. I imagine because most come from high altitudes and can tolerate cold. It is the compost and drainage that are critical.
Already, as the snow melts the rosettes of many of the European Androsace are showing small buds. They appear in the rosette about 3 of 4 whorls out from the center.
Can wait for spring.
Rick
See Contribution from Alan Jones 23 June 2011, 18:58
for an exchange of information. Thanks Maggie and Don for those bits. (I think the article Don referred to is now on the AGS web site or will be soon.
Yes A.zambalense does not like heat, but is also quite willing to root from cuttings. So keep several in hand. Put the pots outside in a cool frame that gets lots of light.
I think there has been further collections of this. I was always fascinated by the resting buds as shown in The Androsace Monograph.
Hi Rick. I am moving my Androsaces out of pots & into my long raised bed at the front of the house. Your list of sp. above for outside planting is very useful indeed. You may remember that I obtained A. muscoidea BB3 from you when I visited. As it's not in your list, how would you categorise it - easy OR with winter protection OR a challenge ?
As this information is key for growers could it at some convenient point be incorporated into the Androsace section in the new online encyclopaedia along with a comprehensive sp. list.
Many thanks
Tony Hale
Hi Tony,
Androsace muscoides BB3 from Brian Burrows is (if I remember correct) a seedling he raised and found easier than others.
This winter was a trial for many high alpines and especially Androsace outside. But Androsace muscoidea (BB3) has survive in a ballast bed and in a pot in very free draining compost in an open frame.
If I remember Tony, your front bed faces South and you may need shading in the summer.
My visit to Saas Fee and Hohsaas was wonderful with the dark pink form of Androsace alpina at its best. This species is a long flowering one rather than the flower covered cushions of, say, A. vandelii. Try it in your raised bed.
Best wishes
Rick
